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Yep. It was that very moment that woke America up from its neutrality and enter World War II. Discuss.

The part that always freaked me out the most was the part with the submarines. People were trapped in there but nothing could be done.

Oh, I didn't see the movie- I heard it wasn't that good- but maybe they made more than one movie ? idk lol

Never seen any pearl harbor movies, except the documentary on it on the Military Channel (out of the 250+ channels I have, thats the only one i really watch rofl)

I am probably, the only one in my class that knows a lot about WW2 stuff, When I get into that part of history I'd ace it fast 8D~

YOU GUYS ARE ALSO MY RESOURCES. sorta.

Also, WHAT DID WE EVAR DO TO JAPAN TO GET ATTACKED WTSUGLGKFLSDJ

The most recent movie (with that annoying Affleck guy) sucked big time. Wait, was there an attack of the harbor or was it just LOVE ANGST?

I hear From Here to Eternity is supposed to be the best movie about Perl Harbor, but I have yet to see it.

What did America do to get Japan on their asses?

Flying Tigers anyone?

America was sending troops, munitions and equipment to China to help them fight against the Japanese. Japan asked them to knock it the fuck off. America didn't. So Japan bloodied their nose.

Rumor is that Roosevelt knew about it and didn't do a thing because he wanted America to go to war with Japan and Germany and Italy but the nation wasn't behind him on it.

he was also supplying the other Allies with stuff too.

Britian was a total accomplice in this crap. Hell, they did it in WWI with the Lusitania. Using a COMMERCIAL PASSENGER LINER to smuggle in munitions. BAD Bedwetter. BAD BEDWETTER!

The funny thing in this story is that the Americans claim to have saved Europe, but only after someone picked on them... Saviors of the world? Maybe, but they only reacted when they got attacked.
Or it's just me misinterpreting.

Also, did you know that the Americans had concentration camps of their own? Looks like it was a running fashion in those times.
I heard it from the song "Kenji" by Fort Minor


"My father came from Japan in 1905
He was 15 when he immigrated from Japan
He, he... he worked until he was able to buy this patch
And build a store"

Let me tell you the story in the form of a dream
I don't know why I have to tell it but I know what it means
Close your eyes, just picture the scene
As I paint it for you, it was World War II
When this man named Kenji woke up
Ken was not a soldier
He was just a man with a family who owned a store in LA
That day, he crawled out of bed like he always did
Bacon and eggs with wife and kids
He lived on the second floor of a little store he ran
He moved to LA from Japan
They called him 'Immigrant'
In Japanese, he'd say he was called "Issei"
That meant 'First Generation In The United States
When everyone was afraid of the Germans, afraid of the Japs
But most of all afraid of a homeland attack
And that morning when Ken went out on the doormat
His world went black 'cause
Right there; front page news
Three weeks before 1942
"Pearl Harbour's Been Bombed And The Japs Are Coming"
Pictures of soldiers dying and running
Ken knew what it would lead to
Just like he guessed, the President said
"The evil Japanese in our home country will be locked away"
They gave Ken a couple of days
To get his whole life packed in two bags
Just two bags - couldn't even pack his clothes
Some folks didn't even have a suitcase to pack anything in
So two trash bags was all they gave them
When the kids asked "Mom, where are we going?"
Nobody even knew what to say to them
Ken didn't wanna lie, he said "The U.S. is looking for spies
So we have to live in a place called Manzanar
Where a lot of Japanese people are"
Stop it, don't look at the gunmen
You don't wanna get the soldiers wondering
If you're gonna run or not
'Cause if you run then you might get shot
Other than that try not to think about it
Try not to worry about it being so crowded
Someday we'll get out, someday, someday...

"As soon as war broke out
The G.I. came and they just come to the house and
"You have to come"
"All the Japanese have to go"
They took Mr. Nii
People didn't understand
Why did they have to take him
Because he is just innocent neighbour"

So now they're in a town with soldiers surrounding them
Every day, every night look down at them
From watch towers up on the wall
Ken couldn't really hate them at all
They were just doing their job and
He wasn't gonna make any problems
He had a little garden with vegetables and fruits
That he gave to the troops in a basket his wife made
But in the back of his mind, he wanted his families life saved
Prisoners of war in their own damn country
What for?
Time passed in the prison town
He wondered if he'd live it down if and when they were free
The only way out was joining the army
And supposedly, some men went out for the army - signed on
And ended up flying to Japan with a bomb
That 15 kiloton blast put an end to the war pretty fast
Two cities were blown to bits; the end of the war came quick
Ken got out, big hopes of a normal life with his kids and his wife
But, when they got back to their home
And what they saw made them feel so alone
These people had trashed every room
Smashed in the windows and bashed in the doors
Written on the walls and the floor
"Japs not welcome anymore."
And Kenji dropped both of his bags at his sides and just stood outside
He looked at his wife without words to say
She looked back at him, wiping the tears away
And said "Someday we'll be okay, someday"
Now the names have been changed, but the story's true
My family was locked up back in '42
My family was there where it was dark and damp
And they called it an internment camp

"When we first got back from camp... uhh
It was... pretty... pretty bad"

I, I remember my husband said
"Are we gonna stay 'til last?"
Then my husband died before they close the camp.

(Quotes in italic are the artist's father and aunt speaking)
Discuss.

you know what i say when i think of Pearl Harbor? BFD.

the Americans caused more damage and killed more people with bombing like 100 times more than the Japs did with itty bitty Peal Harbor.

but i have a funny story that my dad told me once...he used to know this Japanese guy a lonnng time ago who opened up a Japanese restaurant in the city i live in...and every anniversary of Pearl Harbor, all this stupid rednecks would some to the restaurant and harass the Japanese man, or vandalize the outside of his place. so one year the Japanese man, dressed up in a Japanese military pilot jumpsuit, and a katana(i think) and posted up the menu on the outside menu, but named all the dishes after every ship that was sunk on Pearl Harbor... OWNED. the rednecks never bothered him again. x))))) but the guy got killed by the Chinese mafia later on i think... well i died anyways but yeah.

and yeah those camps were pretty awful.. Roosevelt claimed they were for the Japanese people's protection...which was mostly BS, although..when people came back to their homes, a lot of them had been vandalized..so yeah.. it was a pretty bad thing to do, but if it hadn't happened at all, a lot of innocent Japanese people could have been hurt or even murdered by stupid Americans. :/

Kenji is a fucking amazing song, glad someone else knows it.

I wouldn't go so far as to say the 'internment camps' were as bad as the KZ, there wasn't any torture or anything AFAIK, they just sat around.

But of course, I only know that from the song xD;

Well I think Americans would be less praised if there had been torture in those camps...
As an ex-Linkin Park nerd I had to buy Fort Minor's album x) Kenji is probably one of the best songs on it.

yus me too! I actually liked the new album, too. 'Cept now I'm totally off Linkin Park and listen to all industrial and death metal and shit. ;D